New for the garden & some for ID

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bobhelencoan
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New for the garden & some for ID

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Good night Friday. New for garden Blotched emerald.
We also had a ghost of golden swift female that laid eggs. White when laid changing to black. The moth seemed to be uniform grey. We hope to breed through the larva if the eggs hatch but need to know whether to feed bracken or grass roots. Any help appreciated.
There are three micros we would like a second opinion about. Suspect
Cnephesia species
Scoparia pallida
Acrobasis consociella

Bob & I really appreciate the help all the members of this forum give. It makes moth trapping so much more enjoyable knowing help with problems is there.
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Blotched emerald NFG
Blotched emerald NFG
Ghost or Golden swift female ??
Ghost or Golden swift female ??
Cnephesia species  different moth
Cnephesia species different moth
Cnephasia species?
Cnephasia species?
Scoparia pallida?
Scoparia pallida?
Acrobasis consociella?
Acrobasis consociella?
Acrobasis consociella?
Acrobasis consociella?
stevehind
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Re: New for the garden & some for ID

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Hi Bob & Helen

Yes, your micro's are correct, although the Scoparia pallida should be Eudonia pallida. Fairly sure your pale Cnephasia will be Cnephasia incertana as you catch that one regularly but best record it as Cnephasia sp. as you have done.

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Steve
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Re: New for the garden & some for ID

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Many thanks Steve. Can anyone help on the swift moth? Bob & Helen
stevehind
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Re: New for the garden & some for ID

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Hi Bob & Helen

I think your Acrobasis consociella could be an Ephestia species.

Regards
Steve
Greg
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Re: New for the garden & some for ID

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Hi Bob & Helen

I'd say your Swift was a plain form of Common. The pale lateral stripe from the shoulder is just visible, I'd also
suggest it was a female due to the wing length. Obviously a female if it laid eggs. :roll:

Regards
Greg
bobhelencoan
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Re: New for the garden & some for ID

Post by bobhelencoan »

Update, Steve Hind has very kindly dissected some moths for us. The Cnephasia species was Cnephesia incertana the individual dissected being a male. The Ephestia species turned out to be Ephestia unicolorella of which we had several including one that laid eggs and has subsequently produced a fresh adult moth. Thanks to Steve. Bob & Helen
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