ID help requests August 2018

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PaulHopkins
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ID help requests August 2018

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Just a few from August that I'm not sure about, any help appreciated!
1. Cabbage? 2/8/18
1. Cabbage? 2/8/18
Basing my ID of this one partly on johnK's ID hints from about this time last year (http://www.record-lrc.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 20&p=10288):
2. Eudonia truncicolella? 18/8/18
2. Eudonia truncicolella? 18/8/18
I queried this one on the Facebook group "Flying Today Micros and Day-flyers" and had a suggestion of Cydia fagiglandana (Chris Knott) - looked like a good ID to me:
3. Cydia fagiglandana? 20/8/18
3. Cydia fagiglandana? 20/8/18
4. Epinotia ramella? 20/8/18
4. Epinotia ramella? 20/8/18
5. Eudonia lacustrata? 27/8/18
5. Eudonia lacustrata? 27/8/18
Not sure if either of these photos support Common Wainscot over Smoky (or something else):
6a. Common Wainscot? pic 1 31/8/18
6a. Common Wainscot? pic 1 31/8/18
6b. Common Wainscot? pic 2 31/8/18
6b. Common Wainscot? pic 2 31/8/18
Cheers
Paul
johnK
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Re: ID help requests August 2018

Post by johnK »

Hallo Paul,

No.2 is E. truncicolella a bit past it's best but note the angles of the first line and four slender dots just distad.
No. 5 is E. mercurella, quite dark distad of the first line almost clouding out the detail of the long irregular black claviform stigma. This individual is sitting with it's wings a little closer together than usual so the rounded look of the second lines where they meet is not quite as obvious as usual.
E. lacustrata in comparison typically has a paler central wing area so that the x-marks stand out more, the first line has much less dark distad so that the four black, more rounded dots, stand out more. It also has a neat narrow black line (alongside and basad to the second line) which tends to show up more because of the contrast with the pale central wing area. Like mercurella the second line also forms a neat curve where they meet.

Hope this helps,

John
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Re: ID help requests August 2018

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Hi Paul

I agree with John. I also agree with your ID's for No's 3, 4 & 6

Regards
Steve
PaulHopkins
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Re: ID help requests August 2018

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Thanks John and Steve, much appreciated.

Paul
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