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Drtim55
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Pug id

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We trapped this pug last night which we think may be a Dwarf Pug. Can anyone confirm from these two photos please as this would be a lifer for us.
Many thanks
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Greg
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Hi

Looks like an Oak-tree Pug.


Greg
CliveJ
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Coincidentally, I'm calling this Dwarf Pug - trapped 13/05/19 at Maeshafn, Denbigshire. Large discal spot and pronounced abdominal band led me this way, though it was a first for me too.
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PaulHopkins
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And here’s my Dwarf Pug candidate, trapped last night (14/5/19) in my garden in Bromborough.

Not a great photo, but hopefully enough detail to rule it in or out - what’s the verdict?

Cheers
Paul
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Post by Greg »

Hi Clive and Paul,

Your Pug is undoubtedly a Dwarf, Clive.
Paul, looking through Brian Hancock's book the nearest I can see is Freyer's Pug. Was it a fairly large pug ?
If so, looks a possible candidate. If not, possibly Oak-tree. Pretty sure it's not a Dwarf Pug

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Greg wrote: Paul, looking through Brian Hancock's book the nearest I can see is Freyer's Pug. Was it a fairly large pug ?
If so, looks a possible candidate. If not, possibly Oak-tree. Pretty sure it's not a Dwarf Pug
Greg
Thanks Greg - yes, if I’d taken the time to look at the same book I’d have realised Dwarf was off the mark! Same size as the definite Oak-tree Pugs I’ve had this year so that’s probably it, but I won’t record this one.

Cheers
Paul
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Post by SteveH »

Hi folks,

just catching up with this thread after having been away for a while; I've taken copies of all the images and asked Brian for his opinions on them all - I'll let you know what his diagnoses are once he's come back to me.

Cheers,
Steve
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Hi again folks,

Brian has come back with the following:

DrTims = Oak-tree
Clives = Dwarf
Pauls = unknown - could even be Pauper apparently so he is going to re-post it on a Pug forum for general scrutiny. Watch this space!

Cheers
Steve
Drtim55
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Thanks for your help guys
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OK folks, brace yourselves....

Following further distribution of Paul's pug photo, it has been independently identifed as the same species by two people familiar with it - and Brian Hancock has stated he is happy to confirm it as Cheshire's second ever PAUPER PUG. Seems that the pale central band is a key ID feature so well done Paul!

Cheers,
Steve
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One word: blimey!

Thanks for pursuing this, Steve.

Paul
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