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Id help please

Postby green_heath on Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:38 pm

id2.jpg
Only have shot from above. Not well-placed for a side shot!
Looked through books twice for no.1 - it looks obvious but cannot find it!
Heather and Les
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Re: Id help please

Postby Greg on Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:46 pm

Hi Heather and Les,

Your second picture is of a Small Fan-footed Wave.

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Re: Id help please

Postby JulianB on Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:56 pm

Hi - I'd have a look at Single-dotted Wave as well.

I'll pass on the micro!

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Re: Id help please

Postby Greg on Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:18 pm

Why?
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Re: Id help please

Postby JulianB on Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:27 pm

They are similar - here's a link to a handy comparison:

http://www.eakringbirds.com/eakringbirds4/wavemothidsmallfanfootedsingledotted.htm

The dark patch on the abdomen seems to be important.

We had one a week or so back, which we ID'd as a Single-dotted Wave too. I've attached a copy so others can confirm them both.

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Re: Id help please

Postby green_heath on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:50 am

Thanks both for your discussion - I think you are right with the Single-dotted Wave. It seems confusing with having more large dark dots.
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Re: Id help please

Postby SteveH on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:55 am

Nice thread gents -

Cheers,
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Re: Id help please

Postby Greg on Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:05 am

Hi Julian

This has turned out to be a very confusing issue with me. Non of the Single-dotted Waves I've ever seen have
had the continuous dark band on the outer edge of the wing, some of the Small Fan-footed Waves have.
The Wing shape didn't look right for Single-dotted either.
BUT, the dark markings on the abdomen as pointed out on the link you mentioned
(which isn't mentioned in any of my guides) seems to be an important factor.
Makes me wonder if these two species might cross breed.
Apologies for my abrupt response to your first post, I was convinced I was right.
Thanks for the correction.
I've attached a couple of photos of the two species for comparison.

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Re: Id help please

Postby SteveH on Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:11 am

Hi Greg,

I believe your SFFW is dark enough to be assigned the fimbriolata monika :-)

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Re: Id help please

Postby stevehind on Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:11 pm

Hi Heather

The tortrix will be Notocelia trimaculana

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Re: Id help please

Postby green_heath on Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:37 pm

Hi Steve
Thanks for the tortrix id.
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