More help for a novice

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JohnR
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More help for a novice

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Last night I caught what I think is Marbled Beauty. My field guide gives a flying time of July-August. It it possibly on the wing in late May or have I got my ID wrong?

I also caught what looks like Sword-grass. Again the book gives habitat as “Moorland, rough pasture, mainly upland”. I run my trap in a Greater Manchester suburban garden (Hazel Grove).

Lastly, could the pug be Slender Pug?

Thanks, John
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Sword-grass & Slender Pug?
Sword-grass & Slender Pug?
Marbled Beauty?
Marbled Beauty?
A_Neal
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Re: More help for a novice

Post by A_Neal »

The moth you thought was a Sword Grass is The Flame.

Alex
Greg
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Post by Greg »

Hi John,

The Pug is A Freyer's Pug and Yes a Marbled Beauty way out of season. Strange times.

Greg
JohnR
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Thanks Guys,
Your assistance on this forum is invaluable to me as I try to build a knowledge base.

Cheers John
JohnR
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Re: More help for a novice

Post by JohnR »

Some Micros that defeat me...
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4. Day flying. Delamere Forest
4. Day flying. Delamere Forest
3. Approx 10mm. Trapped in garden 27/05
3. Approx 10mm. Trapped in garden 27/05
2. Approx 6mm. Trapped in garden 26/05
2. Approx 6mm. Trapped in garden 26/05
2. Approx 6mm. Trapped in garden 26/05
2. Approx 6mm. Trapped in garden 26/05
1. Trapped in garden 26/05
1. Trapped in garden 26/05
JulianB
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Re: More help for a novice

Post by JulianB »

Hi John,

Not defeat - view it as finishing the last couple of clues in the crossword! Here's me trying to sort out a bunch of my own "fun" micros, and I've wound up looking at yours instead. :D

I'd go for:
1. Epinotia bilunana
2. Nemapogon cloacella
3. Light Brown Apple Moth
4. Celypha lacunana

But a second opinion would never hurt - and do check to see if you agree. I've only caught one of these four moths.

There are two more books you might be interested in: Common Micro-moths of Berkshire and Bird-dropping Tortrix Moths of the British Isles, if you don't already own them. I have both (and still make errors, just less of them). The first of these has a nice comparison of Celypha lacunana and Orthotaenia undulana, which are very similar.

Cheers, Julian
JohnR
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Post by JohnR »

Thanks again Julian, I did check by Googling and all look sound IDs to me. That's another pint I owe you ;)

I was annoyed with myself for not getting Light-brown Apple Moth though.

Cheers, John
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