Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis

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wirralbirder
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Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis

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Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis:

Hi All,

Click beetles - not my strong point, so is this the rather common Athous haemorrhoidalis.
I would like it confirmed before sending in the record to RODIS.

Cheers,
Harry

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DonSten
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Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis

Post by DonSten »

Hello Harry,

Spot on mate ! It is indeed Athous haemorrhoidalis (F). As you say quite common, and recognisable in the field once you get your eye in - as you have. It's two tone basically, with the pronotum black and the elytra a nice glossy chestnut. Another useful pointer is the size - it's a bit bigger than many other common click beetles. The beetle is generally long and narrow compared to say Agriotes obscurus (L) which has a dumpier look and can be found in the same situations. It's quite normal to find 5-6 brown clicks in one field and they are bit confusing sometimes.

Cheers,
Don

wirralbirder
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Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis

Post by wirralbirder »

Hi Don,

Nice to get one correct. Now I can put the record into RODIS. Would it be better to put your name down as determiner whenever you confirm or correct my records ?

Cheers,
Harry

DonSten
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Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis

Post by DonSten »

Never really sure about this.

I have sent specimens I've identified, and which have a label to say I am the determiner, to a specialist, who has agreed my ID is correct but put himself down as determiner in a spreadsheet of records. I think possibly you could say that a person who feels the need to get the ID's checked is not really the determiner.

Others don't do that, because I have identified it correctly initially. If their determination is different, of course you would expect them to be entered as determiner.

Personally, I would leave the det as is, but put a note in the comments field that I have verified the ID.

Cheers,
Don

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Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis

Post by wirralbirder »

Hi Don,

My main point in naming yourself, or any other specialist, as confirming my identification is to help in getting the record verified. Your suggestion of placing a note in the comment field will serve as well.

Cheers,
Harry

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