Memories of 2018, and Trips to Ireland.....
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Memories of 2018, and Trips to Ireland.....
In my garden at least, recent totals have reduced considerably, even though the overnight temperatures remain at what I would consider reasonable.
At 11:00pm last night (21/10/2018) for instance, the temperature was 11C and I could only find 3 moths when checking the trap. 2 x Figure of Eight and 1 Red-green Carpet.
It was rather windy, and with the prospect of very few moths, I replaced my 125W MV lamp with a 20W Compact actinic lamp, rather than just put the trap away. At 7:00am this morning the temperature was 8.6C, and I found 3 extra moths. 1 each of November agg, Eudonia angustea and Tachystola acroxantha.
It will soon be down to memories of what has been my best year ever in the garden.
However, away from the garden I have seen some nice moths, some of which are ‘rare’, and do not occur in Cheshire. Some were new species, and not just for me.
It now seems like a good time to show a few images. More to follow………
Ireland June (7th – 17th) – with 2 friends, Barry and Huw both members of this forum, we made our first of 2 visits. We started in the SE corner near Cork for 2 nights, with 3 target species. We had them all on the first night.
Mel.
At 11:00pm last night (21/10/2018) for instance, the temperature was 11C and I could only find 3 moths when checking the trap. 2 x Figure of Eight and 1 Red-green Carpet.
It was rather windy, and with the prospect of very few moths, I replaced my 125W MV lamp with a 20W Compact actinic lamp, rather than just put the trap away. At 7:00am this morning the temperature was 8.6C, and I found 3 extra moths. 1 each of November agg, Eudonia angustea and Tachystola acroxantha.
It will soon be down to memories of what has been my best year ever in the garden.
However, away from the garden I have seen some nice moths, some of which are ‘rare’, and do not occur in Cheshire. Some were new species, and not just for me.
It now seems like a good time to show a few images. More to follow………
Ireland June (7th – 17th) – with 2 friends, Barry and Huw both members of this forum, we made our first of 2 visits. We started in the SE corner near Cork for 2 nights, with 3 target species. We had them all on the first night.
Mel.
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Hi Mel
Thanks for posting these stunning moths. To see these more unusual moths it's necessary
to plan your holidays to some of the more remote areas of the country, not forgetting your traps of course.
I'm hoping to track down The Grey moth on The Isle of Mull next summer.
I've not had a chance to evaluate this years mothing season as yet, but it seems that it's been very mixed,
with good numbers of some and very few,if any of other regulars species. I'll post my findings at the end
of the year.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to seeing your next batch of stunners.
Regards
Greg
Thanks for posting these stunning moths. To see these more unusual moths it's necessary
to plan your holidays to some of the more remote areas of the country, not forgetting your traps of course.
I'm hoping to track down The Grey moth on The Isle of Mull next summer.
I've not had a chance to evaluate this years mothing season as yet, but it seems that it's been very mixed,
with good numbers of some and very few,if any of other regulars species. I'll post my findings at the end
of the year.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to seeing your next batch of stunners.
Regards
Greg
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Hi Greg,
The site we trapped for Grey is a well known site, and is right on the coast. My trap was set withing 20m of the sea. Best of luck on Mull.
At this site was also had Tawny Shears Hadena perplexa f. capsophila (Pod Lover).
On our second night in the area, we took the decision to trap in a small plantation, as it was easier to set up there, and less perilous to pack up when still dark. This produced 36 species of moths usually recorded at home plus Treble Lines. This latter moth is in Cheshire, but absent from my garden.
From here we moved to the SW and set up for 2 nights at Blackstone Bridge in the district of Glencar. This is where we hoped to trap White Prominent Leucodonta bicoloria, and what was for me my main target of the trip. The owners of our B&B also owned 3 areas of woodland known to have WP's, so it seemed the place to be.
The first night we set up 5 traps (3 MV's and 2 actinics) and we recorded 40 White Prominents, but that was only what were in or near the traps. We probably missed a few sitting about on vegetation, but there were WP’s in every trap. 83 species were recorded between the 5 traps, not all rare, but very nice to see.
I know the Scallop Shell is not rare, but I can't help showing what is one of my favourite moths.
More to Follow........
Mel.
The site we trapped for Grey is a well known site, and is right on the coast. My trap was set withing 20m of the sea. Best of luck on Mull.
At this site was also had Tawny Shears Hadena perplexa f. capsophila (Pod Lover).
On our second night in the area, we took the decision to trap in a small plantation, as it was easier to set up there, and less perilous to pack up when still dark. This produced 36 species of moths usually recorded at home plus Treble Lines. This latter moth is in Cheshire, but absent from my garden.
From here we moved to the SW and set up for 2 nights at Blackstone Bridge in the district of Glencar. This is where we hoped to trap White Prominent Leucodonta bicoloria, and what was for me my main target of the trip. The owners of our B&B also owned 3 areas of woodland known to have WP's, so it seemed the place to be.
The first night we set up 5 traps (3 MV's and 2 actinics) and we recorded 40 White Prominents, but that was only what were in or near the traps. We probably missed a few sitting about on vegetation, but there were WP’s in every trap. 83 species were recorded between the 5 traps, not all rare, but very nice to see.
I know the Scallop Shell is not rare, but I can't help showing what is one of my favourite moths.
More to Follow........
Mel.
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Hi Mel
It looks like you had a very successful trip. The White Prominent is an absolute stunner. From what you say there
is a decent population in that area. It's amazing that they were only recently discovered after almost eighty year absence in the British Isles.
I must say that after the Kentish Glory the White Prominent is my next must see species.
A very nice picture too.
Thanks for sharing.
Greg
It looks like you had a very successful trip. The White Prominent is an absolute stunner. From what you say there
is a decent population in that area. It's amazing that they were only recently discovered after almost eighty year absence in the British Isles.
I must say that after the Kentish Glory the White Prominent is my next must see species.
A very nice picture too.
Thanks for sharing.
Greg
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Several other species on our first night at Blackstone Bridge that are absent or aren't encountered very often in Cheshire, included Peacock Moth Macaria notata, Welsh Wave Venusia cambrica, Small Seraphim Pterapherapteryx sexalata, Lobster Moth Stauropus fagi and Nut-tree Tussock Colocasi9a coryli.
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On our last night in the south, we trapped in a different section of wood. We had access into the wood, but the path was so overgrown that we decided to set up our 5 traps along the fence line in an adjacent field. 55 species were recorded, including another 11 White Prominent.
The last stage of this June visit was to be 5 nights in the Burren National Park. Our B&B has had some very distinguished moth-ers staying there in the past, including the late Bernard Skinner.
Within about 30 minutes of our arrival, we were photographing Transparent Burnet in the garden. We trapped every night in the garden, which has limestone pavement just over the back wall. Apparently some guests never trap away from the garden when staying there, and it isn't hard to understand why. We did trap on several sites including Abbey Hill, Slieve Carron, Mullagh Mor and we did a couple of day searches at Slieve Carron and Cooloorta. We also had some very nice micro's, especially on the Burren, but perhaps enough for now.
Mel.
The last stage of this June visit was to be 5 nights in the Burren National Park. Our B&B has had some very distinguished moth-ers staying there in the past, including the late Bernard Skinner.
Within about 30 minutes of our arrival, we were photographing Transparent Burnet in the garden. We trapped every night in the garden, which has limestone pavement just over the back wall. Apparently some guests never trap away from the garden when staying there, and it isn't hard to understand why. We did trap on several sites including Abbey Hill, Slieve Carron, Mullagh Mor and we did a couple of day searches at Slieve Carron and Cooloorta. We also had some very nice micro's, especially on the Burren, but perhaps enough for now.
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What fantastic moths, Mel. I would love to go to the Burren one day.
Looking forward to seeing those micros one cold, mothless day soon!
Cheers
Paul
Looking forward to seeing those micros one cold, mothless day soon!
Cheers
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Yes, well worth a visit, both for the moths and scenery. You will need a good map, if you can find one, we got lost every day.
I've started sorting a few micro images, but just realized that I have omitted one of my new macro's caught in the garden where we we staying.
Mel.
Yes, well worth a visit, both for the moths and scenery. You will need a good map, if you can find one, we got lost every day.
I've started sorting a few micro images, but just realized that I have omitted one of my new macro's caught in the garden where we we staying.
Mel.
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Hi Mel
A brilliant set of moths, many of them would have been lifer's for me.
You were a little early for the Burren Green then? I suppose if it was a toss up between
that or the earlier White Prominent you made the right choice in my opinion.
Greg
A brilliant set of moths, many of them would have been lifer's for me.
You were a little early for the Burren Green then? I suppose if it was a toss up between
that or the earlier White Prominent you made the right choice in my opinion.
Greg
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Hi Greg,
Burren Green and Irish Annulet, the other speciality, are on the wing in August, so it definitely needs 2 visits if you want the best moths from June and August.
We went back for a long weekend in the hope of recording those and a few other macro species, but things didn't quite work out as planned. However, I will let you know how we did soon.
However before then I have a few micro's to show. As always with micro's that I post, if anyone thinks we have mis-ID'd any, please let me know. They are in alphabetical order and all were from the Burren, except for Hoary Plume and Hedya atropunctana which were from Blackstone Bridge
A few more to follow......
Mel.
Burren Green and Irish Annulet, the other speciality, are on the wing in August, so it definitely needs 2 visits if you want the best moths from June and August.
We went back for a long weekend in the hope of recording those and a few other macro species, but things didn't quite work out as planned. However, I will let you know how we did soon.
However before then I have a few micro's to show. As always with micro's that I post, if anyone thinks we have mis-ID'd any, please let me know. They are in alphabetical order and all were from the Burren, except for Hoary Plume and Hedya atropunctana which were from Blackstone Bridge
A few more to follow......
Mel.
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The last group of micro's, all recorded in the Burren NP.
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This section will cover our return visit in August, will not be as long, will not have the same number of moths, but a little more background to our trip.
Having decided that we wanted to go to Ireland to twitch (I mean record) a few moths, we contacted a couple of experienced recorders that we knew, and who had been there before. They generously provided us with copies of their own records, which gave us a very good start. We not only knew the moth species they had seen, but also the sites where they had seen them, and suitable dates to consider. The records covered 2000, 2007, 2010 and 2014, and from these records, I drew up a list of species that we wished to see. The list comprised not only species I had not seen before, but also species that I had only seen as retained specimens, as well as species that I had previously seen, but that Barry and/or Huw had not.
The June ‘wish’ list comprised a total of 39 species, and I then prepared a spreadsheet which showed which species were to found on the sites covered. There were nine sites in total, but some species were only found on 1 or 2 sites, while others were to be found on nearly all of the sites. We did not expect to see them all by any means, as we did not have sufficient time to visit many of the sites, but we did know what might be possible.
From the 39 species I had 15 new species comprising 8 macro’s, 7 micro’s and recorded several more that previously had only been retained ‘moths in pots’. Barry and Huw did better than I did.
Before we even started planning, we knew that we would not be able to see everything we would like to see on one visit. Thoughts back in January (when we first started planning), were that we could make a second trip in 2019. However, even before we left Ireland in June, we were thinking of returning in August.
As soon as we had all agreed, and checked ferries and B&B, we decided to go back to the Burren for a long weekend, on what we thought would be suitable dates in August. I did another spreadsheet of August moths. This contained 42 species, far too many for 4 days, but we had several priority species, which we were hoping to see. Anything else would be a bonus. We actually recorded 12 off the list, 8 of which were new for me. In hindsight 4 days was not long enough, and I’m sure we would have seen many more moths, and possibly more new species, by staying a few more days.
The priority species we wished to see were Burren Green, Irish Annulet, Rush Wainscot, Least Minor, Scotch Annulet and Straw Belle. This latter species was to be found on 9 of the 11 sites we had August records from. It was to be our banker, but despite 2 day searches on 2 different sites we failed. It is likely that their flight period had already finished. We also failed to trap Scotch Annulet and never had enough time to visit the sites where Least Minor was known to be.
And now for some moths…….
Four more macro's to add, but I've just hit a snag. For some reason I cannot add more images. Have I reached a maximimum perhaps? Will try later.
Mel.
Having decided that we wanted to go to Ireland to twitch (I mean record) a few moths, we contacted a couple of experienced recorders that we knew, and who had been there before. They generously provided us with copies of their own records, which gave us a very good start. We not only knew the moth species they had seen, but also the sites where they had seen them, and suitable dates to consider. The records covered 2000, 2007, 2010 and 2014, and from these records, I drew up a list of species that we wished to see. The list comprised not only species I had not seen before, but also species that I had only seen as retained specimens, as well as species that I had previously seen, but that Barry and/or Huw had not.
The June ‘wish’ list comprised a total of 39 species, and I then prepared a spreadsheet which showed which species were to found on the sites covered. There were nine sites in total, but some species were only found on 1 or 2 sites, while others were to be found on nearly all of the sites. We did not expect to see them all by any means, as we did not have sufficient time to visit many of the sites, but we did know what might be possible.
From the 39 species I had 15 new species comprising 8 macro’s, 7 micro’s and recorded several more that previously had only been retained ‘moths in pots’. Barry and Huw did better than I did.
Before we even started planning, we knew that we would not be able to see everything we would like to see on one visit. Thoughts back in January (when we first started planning), were that we could make a second trip in 2019. However, even before we left Ireland in June, we were thinking of returning in August.
As soon as we had all agreed, and checked ferries and B&B, we decided to go back to the Burren for a long weekend, on what we thought would be suitable dates in August. I did another spreadsheet of August moths. This contained 42 species, far too many for 4 days, but we had several priority species, which we were hoping to see. Anything else would be a bonus. We actually recorded 12 off the list, 8 of which were new for me. In hindsight 4 days was not long enough, and I’m sure we would have seen many more moths, and possibly more new species, by staying a few more days.
The priority species we wished to see were Burren Green, Irish Annulet, Rush Wainscot, Least Minor, Scotch Annulet and Straw Belle. This latter species was to be found on 9 of the 11 sites we had August records from. It was to be our banker, but despite 2 day searches on 2 different sites we failed. It is likely that their flight period had already finished. We also failed to trap Scotch Annulet and never had enough time to visit the sites where Least Minor was known to be.
And now for some moths…….
Four more macro's to add, but I've just hit a snag. For some reason I cannot add more images. Have I reached a maximimum perhaps? Will try later.
Mel.
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I had to add the last four images as a reply, rather than an edit, but all seems OK.
We did have a few species that were passed their best, or my images were not good enough, such as Bordered Grey and Shaded Pug, but a trip to Ireland is well worth the effort.
I would love to go again.
Mel.
We did have a few species that were passed their best, or my images were not good enough, such as Bordered Grey and Shaded Pug, but a trip to Ireland is well worth the effort.
I would love to go again.
Mel.
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Hi Mel
Thanks again for sharing those stunning moths. The Burren Green is a corker.
It shows that a little forward planning and research pays off.
You've certainly fired up my enthusiasm for next year. I think a holiday in Ireland
is on the cards in the near future.
Regards
Greg
Thanks again for sharing those stunning moths. The Burren Green is a corker.
It shows that a little forward planning and research pays off.
You've certainly fired up my enthusiasm for next year. I think a holiday in Ireland
is on the cards in the near future.
Regards
Greg
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Hi Greg,
Thanks for that. I can assure you that if you do go, you will definitely enjoy it.
You may or may not know that to record moths in Ireland you need a licence, and to record in the Burren NP you need their licence also. People do go without them, but they are easy to obtain and free of charge. When I applied for the Ireland licence, I was in contact with a chap from the Irish National Parks and Wildlife Service, and I actually bumped into him when I started talking to a group of lepidopterists we met at Blackstone Bridge. He was leading a field trip. He also remembered me from my application some months earlier.
Contact me if you need information. I can let you have my records and the spreadsheets I produced showing sites and moth species, but have been asked not to pass on the other spreadsheets we were able to get our hands on, without prior permission from the owners.
Mel.
Thanks for that. I can assure you that if you do go, you will definitely enjoy it.
You may or may not know that to record moths in Ireland you need a licence, and to record in the Burren NP you need their licence also. People do go without them, but they are easy to obtain and free of charge. When I applied for the Ireland licence, I was in contact with a chap from the Irish National Parks and Wildlife Service, and I actually bumped into him when I started talking to a group of lepidopterists we met at Blackstone Bridge. He was leading a field trip. He also remembered me from my application some months earlier.
Contact me if you need information. I can let you have my records and the spreadsheets I produced showing sites and moth species, but have been asked not to pass on the other spreadsheets we were able to get our hands on, without prior permission from the owners.
Mel.
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I had previously stated that I had no suitable images of Shaded Pug, but Huw has been able to supply one. Also added is Marbled White Spot.
I have recorded this species in a few different counties, but have only seen it once in Cheshire as it is not that common.
Mel.
I have recorded this species in a few different counties, but have only seen it once in Cheshire as it is not that common.
Mel.