Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis:
Hi All,
Click beetles - not my strong point, so is this the rather common Athous haemorrhoidalis.
I would like it confirmed before sending in the record to RODIS.
Cheers,
Harry
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Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis
Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis
Hello Harry,
Spot on mate ! It is indeed Athous haemorrhoidalis (F). As you say quite common, and recognisable in the field once you get your eye in - as you have. It's two tone basically, with the pronotum black and the elytra a nice glossy chestnut. Another useful pointer is the size - it's a bit bigger than many other common click beetles. The beetle is generally long and narrow compared to say Agriotes obscurus (L) which has a dumpier look and can be found in the same situations. It's quite normal to find 5-6 brown clicks in one field and they are bit confusing sometimes.
Cheers,
Don
Spot on mate ! It is indeed Athous haemorrhoidalis (F). As you say quite common, and recognisable in the field once you get your eye in - as you have. It's two tone basically, with the pronotum black and the elytra a nice glossy chestnut. Another useful pointer is the size - it's a bit bigger than many other common click beetles. The beetle is generally long and narrow compared to say Agriotes obscurus (L) which has a dumpier look and can be found in the same situations. It's quite normal to find 5-6 brown clicks in one field and they are bit confusing sometimes.
Cheers,
Don
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Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis
Hi Don,
Nice to get one correct. Now I can put the record into RODIS. Would it be better to put your name down as determiner whenever you confirm or correct my records ?
Cheers,
Harry
Nice to get one correct. Now I can put the record into RODIS. Would it be better to put your name down as determiner whenever you confirm or correct my records ?
Cheers,
Harry
Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis
Never really sure about this.
I have sent specimens I've identified, and which have a label to say I am the determiner, to a specialist, who has agreed my ID is correct but put himself down as determiner in a spreadsheet of records. I think possibly you could say that a person who feels the need to get the ID's checked is not really the determiner.
Others don't do that, because I have identified it correctly initially. If their determination is different, of course you would expect them to be entered as determiner.
Personally, I would leave the det as is, but put a note in the comments field that I have verified the ID.
Cheers,
Don
I have sent specimens I've identified, and which have a label to say I am the determiner, to a specialist, who has agreed my ID is correct but put himself down as determiner in a spreadsheet of records. I think possibly you could say that a person who feels the need to get the ID's checked is not really the determiner.
Others don't do that, because I have identified it correctly initially. If their determination is different, of course you would expect them to be entered as determiner.
Personally, I would leave the det as is, but put a note in the comments field that I have verified the ID.
Cheers,
Don
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Re: Is this Athous haemorrhoidalis
Hi Don,
My main point in naming yourself, or any other specialist, as confirming my identification is to help in getting the record verified. Your suggestion of placing a note in the comment field will serve as well.
Cheers,
Harry
My main point in naming yourself, or any other specialist, as confirming my identification is to help in getting the record verified. Your suggestion of placing a note in the comment field will serve as well.
Cheers,
Harry